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Is it true that yoga will awaken deeper energy, which is called kundalini? | J. Krishnamurti

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These are the most
crazy questions! Will the practice
of yoga, as it is being done
in Europe and America, help to bring about
a spiritual awakening? Is it true that yoga
will awaken deeper energy, which is called
kundalini? May I read it
once more? It’s not necessary? Q:No.
K:Right? From the sublime
to the ridiculous. The so-called yoga, which the West,
and part of the East in India, was invented about
the 17th and 18th century, the exercises, in order not only
to have a very good body, healthy body, through force
– you understand? – through discipline,
through control, in order to awaken
so-called higher energy. 17th, 18th century. The real Yoga,
which is called Raja Yoga, King of Yogas, is to lead
a highly moral life, not morality according
to circumstances, according to culture, but true ethical
activity in life – not to hurt, not to drink,
not to drug yourself, right amount of sleep,
right amount of food, clear thinking, and acting morally, doing the right thing. I won’t go into all that,
what is right and wrong. They never mentioned,
as far as I understand, after talking
with a great many scholars, they never mentioned
about exercise. They say exercise normally –
walk, swim, all that, but their emphasis was
a very moral life, a mind which is active. And modern yoga… The meaning of the word
you all know, you probably know. I have talked to the scholars
too and they say it doesn’t quite mean that,
which is to join. The meaning of the word
‘yoga’ is to join, join the higher
with the lower, or the lower
with the higher. You understand? And modern yoga… I don’t know why I am talking
about all this nonsense! I don’t know
why they call it yoga, it should be called
just exercise, but that wouldn’t
appeal to you! You have to pay money
to learn yoga, to breathe properly,
and all that. You can practise yoga, the exercises
of different kinds. The speaker has done
some of it, for years, taught by the experts; fortunately,
they didn’t charge, because they also thought
I was an expert. Sorry!
(Laughter) I am not an expert, and so they soon
deserted me! Or I deserted them,
whichever way… Sirs, you can do
this kind of yoga, exercise for the rest
of your life – you won’t awaken
spiritual insight, nor will the awakening of a higher energy
come into being. You know, in the East they have
a word for this called kundalini. Some of you
probably have read or been caught
in that word. But most of the people, as far
as I have discussed with them, who have gone into
this matter very deeply, they are always quoting
somebody else, back to the original
mischief-maker. Sorry.
(Laughter) And none of them
– please, believe me – none of them
have awakened this thing. They talk about it. They feel certain
experiences, which they call
by this name. I have discussed with them
very seriously, and what they
are talking about is a certain form of increasing
energy to do more mischief. I mean that. By eating the right food,
by control, by breathing properly,
etc., etc., etc., you have more energy,
naturally. And that gives you
a sense of superiority, and you are enlightened,
and so on. But there is a different
form of… I won’t go into it
because you are all eager, I am not touching it. That can only happen
when the self is not. Then there is a totally
different kind of energy to keep the mind
fresh, young, alive, and that can only come
when there is absolutely no sense of the self. Right?
Obviously. Because the self,
the ‘me,’ the centre, is in constant conflict. Right? Wanting, not wanting,
creating dualities, opposing desires, this constant struggle
that’s going on. As long as that struggle
is going on there is a wastage of energy,
obviously. When that struggle
is not, there is a totally different
kind of energy taking place. Right? There is the story
of a man, a philosopher,
or a patriarch, who was a well-known
teacher. And a disciple
came to him and said, ‘Master, teach me
how to meditate.’ So he sat up in the right
position, you know, and closed his eyes, and began to breathe
very deeply trying to capture
the higher webs, and vibrations,
and all the rest of it. So the Master picks up
two pieces of stone and rubs them,
keeps on rubbing them. And the disciple
opens his eyes and says, ‘Master, what are
you doing?’ He said, ‘I am trying to make
out of these stones a mirror so that
I can look at myself,’ and the disciple says, ‘Master, you can
never do that.’ He said, ‘In the same way,
my friend, you can sit like that
and breathe like that forever, but you will never…’
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100 thoughts on “Is it true that yoga will awaken deeper energy, which is called kundalini? | J. Krishnamurti”

  1. local global says:

    I think, exercise-yoga doesn't lead to awakening. Awakening is union of mind with its source. Although exercise is also called yoga, but yoga relates to the higher level of consciousness.

  2. Nihal Wijethunge says:

    Absolutely correct sir 👍👍👍

  3. Nihal Wijethunge says:

    It's an exercise for internal organs

  4. Venkatanarayana Damarla says:

    He is wrong. He failed to achieve Kundalini Yoga. Hence, he is mocking.

  5. Johnathan Taylor says:

    I find Krishnamurti arrogant and impatient in most of his talks. He speaks in a very condisending way when ever I hear him. Not a very enlightening person to me.

  6. Mystic rose says:

    Can't be much simpler than this

  7. Inner Vigilance says:

    He had little patience for nonsense, but the people are ignorant and need to be shown the proper way. He was blessed to have been brought up in such an environment as he was, but the vast sea of humanity are brought up in ignorance and fear. If he had existed 2000 years ago I am sure he would be treated as a god now by the ignorant suffering masses looking for help in their meager existence.

  8. Jack Kore says:

    Shambles, should've just accepted that he's not an expert in Yoga.

  9. gp g says:

    lucky old buster

  10. Kevin Murphy says:

    Interesting….certainly Kundalini exists as does "Chi Gung" which is same thing obviously…Its hard for me to believe Krishanmurti discounts its existence but then again what he is speaking on for the most part is "Hatha Yoga" which IS exercise….I never read this man but rather came to my own path 45 yrs ago via my Sifu and then a few yrs later in 1978 became a disciple of Paramahansa Yogananda.

    This man here, whom up to now I held in high esteem; seems a tad puffed up and its quite obvious that to discount "Kundalini" simply because one hasnt achieved it nor KNOWN anyone who has, is indeed going from the sublime to the ridiculous…..A great "intellect " not necessarily a great "Spirit'…

    Truly there have been many charlatans purporting to be Gurus etc etc. but anyone who has real "direct" experience knows Kundalini DOES exist and the "Raja" Yoga, or "Royal Yoga" he mentions here is FAR more than "moral living" but rather has to do with the summoning and directing of the Life Force , the "Prana" by virtue of the breath…This takes time.

    These "Prana Yama" or in Taoist "Chi Gung" techniques arent part of the "Hatha Yoga' Krishanmurti speaks of here which are the postures and do have wonderful health benefits but whose practice rarely sparks the life force.

    This man is a great "Intellect" but certainly not an "Adept", as most of that lofty group live in humble obscurity and dont do book tours or lectures…..There are exceptions of course, Yogananda being the most noteworthy by far.

    Krishanmurti should know better. Im glad I stumbled on this, a most sobering and surprising experience rendered all the more puzzling by virtue of his OWN mystical experiences as a youth..The only conclusion I can come to is he was an advanced soul coming into this latest incarnation but never cultivated this, which can ONLY happen via Prana Yama a fact which is all the more ironic considering he came from a country whose Saints and Gurus have illuminated the spiritual and geographical landscape from time immemorial

  11. Dan Bronco says:

    To all idiots with opinions. Now we have substantial scientic evidence to prove the benefits of Yoga physically mentally and beyond for an individual and also for society. To sad that this man didn't live long to witness it…. if only he practiced yoga.

  12. Being Mr.G says:

    LOL when he said yoga is 7th-century old that's where I understood how much knowledge he has about Yoga.

  13. Madhu Kiran Narava says:

    Please speak more!

  14. Santosh Kumar Mishra says:

    From childhood I was very energetic and mindfulness person. I was too very ambitious and goal oriented . after adolescence when I got some failures I get depressed. The magnitude of the depression was so high I had to go under medication. then after I lost my aim in life. I was a very lazy person. I had other complexions like severe insomnia, anxiety, , etc. just three years back I started to do yoga pranayam and meditation. I achieved my lost confidence again. Now I have better nights and beautiful mornings. But I have not to spend a dollar with any spiritual leader. All you can get the fragrance of yoga without money near your bed.

  15. natoik2 says:

    Fantastic! Thanks for the greek subs!

  16. Rakesh Prattipati says:

    Jiddu is wrong when he says yoga was found in 17th century.

  17. S White says:

    Instead of listening to this guy I just punch myself in the face

  18. heekyung Kim says:

    He makes me smile. What a charming person. I wish i have seen him talking in real life.

  19. Ray Indra says:

    Thank you Jiddu for making fun of yoga. Life is a combination of many factors ? None of them ? I have seen somebody who did not speak and never said a word not even on a video ? But…..

  20. Gabriela M.A. says:

    only because he's a great reference on the subject people and followers think it's ok for him to be arrogant (or mostly ironic, which relates)?

  21. Tane Hima says:

    Buffalo

  22. yosser hughes says:

    unless it transforms you back to your 20s its rubbish. who cares to feel 20 but look like 90! I think these yogis are bullshitting us.

  23. Yogi Brahmeshwar says:

    Yes it does activAtes Kundalini mine did and it won't activate for one until you are non violent and a celebate

  24. sapinder grewal says:

    Only if you have stubburn nature like Patanjali or Buddha. Other than that, it happen by itself, as per my case. Yoga maintain the imbalance it brings with it. I balanced my self with fire

  25. neoaureus says:

    Now I know where Yoda's voice and diction came from…humph?

  26. Mama Laloo Sindhi says:

    Indians, mostly Hindus, put more emphasis on YOGA than on meditation, whereas Buddhists in Tibet, Japan, Thailand, Vietnam, Burma, etc., put more emphasis on MEDITATION than on yoga.

    Yoga is more physical and to some extent mental, however, meditation is the other way round. Thus, meditation, no matters either Hindus or Buddhists do, is more spiritual, and makes a man much more wiser than a man who merely practice yoga.

    Please note: I have nothing against yoga. These comments are my personal opinions, and are based on my own individual research and practices, so please read them no matters critically but without any prejudice.

    Regards and many thanks

  27. X Siri says:

    8:40. The me / ego is constantly in conflict, opposed desires.

  28. Shiva Shankara - o transformador says:

    K forever

  29. Alexander Richter says:

    If you watch it at 2x speed her speech almost sounds normal.

  30. Arjuna Deva says:

    I have met many people, sincere practitioners, who have awakened the kundalini. In my opinion, we should all endeavor to do so in a healthy, balanced manner.

  31. annette norris says:

    Thank you❤✌🏾✊🏾

  32. earth is flat says:

    Kundalini is not someone's wish, desire, aim, want. It is nobody's property n not for everybody to have. Poison knows who seeks it and who can bear it.

  33. sarvesh dubey says:

    yoga the other name of meditation

  34. Salujathustra says:

    If he answers in affirmative and says yes, then yoga will become a mean to an end, and yoga will become important more than anything. Not being able to find something through practice because there is nothing to find at all, you will become bore and other will come and say, Ah, try this one, Vipassana, this will help. After getting bore of it, another beard will come and say with a rather fancy word and say, transcendental meditation is the final and finest mean and we fall for that. Trap after trap, we let ourselves used like a commodity, and in attempt to find a meaning demean ourselves in the court of heavenly stars and sun and Earth. Ashamed and abashed, thrashed and trashed, we remained holed up in our consciousness and leads an unholy life.

  35. Tewodros Ephrem says:

    Pure soul!!

  36. Malgozata says:

    Thank you. I got caught up in all of this stuff, breathing, eating right foods, yoga exercises, etc. But Krishnamurti is right. Only "when the self is not" do I awaken. I appreciate this.

  37. Let's Study Medicine says:

    Always try seeing yourself & the higher self as one..unite

  38. Keep Learning says:

    In India Its possible but not in America or Europe 😂😂

  39. Lucky DeSilva says:

    Respect and love to wonderful human being.

  40. Lucky DeSilva says:

    What a beautiful laugh with such honesty .

  41. Mystecal Dharma says:

    beautiful creativity salute this man

  42. ummglick says:

    men like this man are rare indeed

  43. Madhukiran Attivilli says:

    8:20 — The answer is here

  44. CoruscantMe says:

    be-come Whole

  45. GOON CRUSHA says:

    One day it’ll all make sense.

  46. Carlos Parra says:

    But isnt Hatha yoga a part of the eightfold Raja Yoga? Why dismiss one part of the whole? there are several ways to start working on the mind and attain unity within you. Hatha yoga simply means you start with the body, because its the simpler way. Starting on the mind right away its more difficult, so by working on the body first you give the first steps in taming the control the ego exerts on you. I think he was being cranky that day…

  47. Nirmal says:

    Yoga is just one another form of realising the self. J Krishnamoorthi has one way of realising it, Yogis has another way, Ramana Maharshi has another way but ultimately everyone is talking about the same. I dont understand why Krishnamurthi should make fun of the yogic way. For a whole lot of people doing yoga has helped them physically and mentally to reach the goal. Its another method. Accept it like that.

  48. Snake 777 says:

    I'm certain they made Yoda from watching this guy…

  49. T B-SHAW says:

    a trump comb over

  50. buttegowda says:

    This guy is a nut. See how tensed he is. Firs of all he has to learn to spell Yoga properly. Feels sad that these kind of guys are actually teachers and preachers and there is audience too. Jiddu bhai, do no try to teach things you do not know. It is good to answer, "I do not know"

  51. Alpha Draconian says:

    When was this video actually made it seems old … ie like back a few decades at least …..

  52. Alpha Draconian says:

    PS ….. I’m over duality I’m trying to do polarity instead

  53. Robert Davidson says:

    I used to follow yogi Bear but I thought it was a boo boo!

  54. Shiva Rawat says:

    Loved this discourse.
    And how lovely is the laughter of a true person. 😇🙏

  55. Puzzle Guru says:

    I don't understand what he speaks but this is for sure something closest to truth

  56. nirodha says:

    He touches upon Advaita Vedanta, indirectly. Can anyone direct me to a video where he speaks about non-dualism and looking at the mind/thought itself?

  57. beautifulsoulblue says:

    Truth speaks what is not popular to hear what’s he is saying resonates with my own knowing of experience of becoming Namaste 🙏🏼

  58. Colin D says:

    When I was a child, I sat in the lotus position with a straight back and focused my awareness on my breathing, I was suddenly hovering above my body looking at myself.

  59. Tshering Choden says:

    Wow …. he is laughing..😊😊

  60. Peripatéticos says:

    Woohoo 🍀🙏🏼👍🏼

  61. The Existential Vegan says:

    Krishnamurti was a beautiful flower,
    sharing his fragrance with all.
    Now the flower is gone,
    yet the perfume remains
    eternal.

    Question: what do you think is the fragrance or perfume?

  62. Kripto Danny says:

    I always loved him…

  63. Krishan Lal says:

    Conflict is the only problem of mankind

  64. Kesa Loma says:

    It is right what he said about "yoga and kundalini". Modern people often mix all deep understanding and build their own then with English language transfer all back into the world in different explanation.

  65. Saumitra Gautam says:

    How I wish this man was alive today. He died in 1986, 1 year after I was born. Alas.

  66. C J says:

    I agree with the speaker partly, however he is missing a huge ingredient. The body and mind are not 2. Which means that they reflect one another, so as done below is done above and vice versa, so any practice physically does alter brain and consciousness, inevitably. Some practices "physically" have different effects on the mind and vice versa. He is correct to advise that focusing on the things themselves as separate experiences of the self is the wrong approach that leads back to duality and self suffering. Constantly seeking a new experience is like a dog chasing its own tail. You are both the subject and object and you are nothing that can be defined by any words or any practices. Truth. He is also correct to minimize the priority of experiencing kundalini, since the snare can and is often the experiences and not the evolution of self. The evolution of self that has no conditions or limitations imposed by the ego or world's machinations.
    Be well.
    Poetandwarrior.com

  67. I Want A 6 Pack Motivation says:

    What I'm getting out of meditation I can't fully explain, but perhaps close to what Krishnamurti said, I lose myself a little each day, and this loss of self, brings about a new energy.
    In no way, am I gonna meditate daily for up to an hour, for months, if i wasn't tapping into something worth it – just sit, with no phone, music, or distractions, and if you start freaking out, there is reason #1 for you to start. I don't teach yoga, sell anything related, nor spent a dime on spiritual retreats, or yoga groups, but I can emphatically suggest to start seeking Pranayama!

  68. Ngawang Nyandak says:

    His teaching is Buddhism teaching but he didn't say it was Buddha's teaching. I know all Buddhism teaching . What he thought that is Buddhism teaching.

  69. Kathleen McGinty says:

    What a choice video, quite a sense of humor!! Thank you

  70. Carlos Matas Capilla says:

    Fun
    Really

  71. Matthew wall says:

    the struggle…..of our inner oppossing energies thisman nails it rihgt
    ///

  72. Itsanameisntit says:

    The Theosophical Society (wealthy English aristocrats and Bourgeoisie), chose Krishnamurti because they though he would be a contemporary Buddha. They were wrong. He never experienced the results of Kundalini therefore in that pompous English aristocratic way, which SO many Raj era Indians adopted so well, (more Catholic than the Pope), Kundalini was rubbish. It's like people who think Ustrasana (Camel posture), is so called because of the shape the practitioner forms. When you know, you know.

  73. Aakash Deep says:

    Have been an admirer of Jiddu krishnamurti until i heard this. The alignment of one's body in certain shapes for a certain period of time resonates with the geometric patterns occurring in our daily lives and in the universe and this is yoga. The concept of Yoga is to align oneself with these patterns as much as possible, to be in sync with the universe. Yoga is not a few centuries old, it is many millennial old. I can put across a ton of points to prove this, but then i might just write a book and make some money.

  74. Tate Prophet says:

    Lmao I clicked on the thumbnail just because I saw written krishnamurti and yoga in the same sentence and he starts with "these are the most crazy questions". I laughed so hard ahah

  75. Nagaraj gobburi says:

    What is so fun when K is laughing? He is also a human being. Why make a fuss of it?

  76. Voievodul Titirez Socolescu Yon says:

    people who are criticizing one form or another of practice without having themselves a true spiritual realization are just imitating masters and do damage around themselves and become arrogant. So listen to this man of if you to proceed in the way he indicates but please refrain from just copying some of his words and labeling other people.

  77. Ramesh Jagtap says:

    Why moon, mares when everything
    Is here. History helping us to improve in right path. No world
    In space what you have to done
    Is only here on earth.

  78. Manish Kumar says:

    No follower today…once upon time he used to compete with osho..the master

  79. Earth says:

    It is not invented.

  80. Sai Ganesh K says:

    Bharatyiyudu

  81. R Koco says:

    There are carvings on temples in India dating back thousands of years, depicting yoga asana. With all due respect and the utmost respect at that, I'm not sure exactly what Krishnamurti is referring to when he says yoga asana has only existed since the 17th or 18th century?

  82. Bill Spoon says:

    Finally the truth about yoga!!

  83. Ankit Shende says:

    He really dig things, understand & research deeply like me — I like him…

  84. Komang Darmawan says:

    JK is no doubt that he is a great philosopher, but regarding yoga it seems that he didn't explore more.
    JK is making fun with the word yoga without explained what is the fundamental of yoga by patanjali, which is also included the Asanas or yoga posture (this is which is now in modern days is popular). But the word yoga itself means unification not joining, its like unification of sugar with water where sugar lost it form and merge into water.
    In astangga yoga the first limb is yama then niyama, followed by asanas , pranayama, etc. Yama & niyama is the moral principles, the essence of yama niyama lies in the Isvara pranidhana means shelters to the Controller of the universe which is be done through the practice of meditation.
    The asanas itself is of two kinds: one is asanas for meditation such as padmasana, siddhasana, etc. And the others is asanas to balance the centre of energies (cakras) in the body which mistakenly called as yoga today.
    So the people who do meditation for sure they also do yoga posture, but those who only do yoga Posture doesn't mean that they do meditation. To awaken the kundalini for sure meditation is essential, and by the help of yoga exercise it make the body more prepare for meditation. So yoga posture will help the meditation practice and hence help to awaken the kundalini.

  85. Lee says:

    I thought yoga was to prepare the body for meditation.

  86. Fiorenzo Tassotti says:

    I'm sorry but what Krishnamurti says about hata yoga, apart from giggles, is wrong, surely he never practiced it, and it is evident, and you shouldn't talk about what you don't have direct knowledge of, even if your name is Krishnamurti …

    Practicing hata yoga, it has profound effects not only on the physical, and it would be enough to know traditional Chinese medicine to know it, but it has extraordinary effects on the mental faculties, on the state of the mind, I am convinced that this practice can also increase the IQ by 30 points , but this, only in the time in which it is pursued in practice, if the practice is interrupted, everything returns as before. And why does this happen? Because the state of mental confusion decreases, the ape-mind occupies less space. This, only thanks to hata yog.

    To understand this, you don't need great esotericisms, you just need to know a bit about psychology and physiology, but also to know how to think about it.

    As for the kundalini, no one knows what that thing is, neither have they had this monumental experience, evidently to Krishnamurti never happened, and I feel sorry for him, and even here, it is not correct to speak of what you don't know, even if you are krishnamurti and have an audience of devoted listeners who chuckle on command.

    It is true that there is a lot of people who in the world or in the web speak about kundalini or tell that they had kundalini experiences just because they felt a chill in the back or feelings like those in the chi kung practice, but I don't think any of them know what kundalini is. Kundalini is a sudden experience that begins with a strong feeling of spinal bone starting from the sacrum, this feeling, which is just a physical sensation, rises and, within a second or two, reaches the head, at that point a thermonuclear bomb explodes in your head, at that moment you are no longer you, you lose the feeling of being a physical body, it's like everything, you and all around you becomes a ball of plasma without limits and this plasma is you and at the same time you are not, it is something impossible to describe also because the everyday rational mind fails to conceive that thing .it is a state unreachable to normal consciousness and there is even a tendency to forget it because it is something that cannot be recorded in the flow of daily events ‘l’intelletto si sprofonda tanto che dietro la memoria non può ire’. After the end of this explosion, one returns to the gray everyday life, nothing has changed, no enlightenment, no more intelligence or awareness, no more wisdom, you have remained the same fool as before, only with the memory that something beyond all conception and imagination has happened .

  87. Dalwinder Singh says:

    This is the biggest lol

  88. Amun Amen says:

    Bodhidharma was the master he was speaking about at the end, making the mirror. Loved that story

  89. SpritMatterMan says:

    I have yet to meet an awakened and critically thinking yoga teacher. All these "yogis" are a bunch of doom cough bird brains!!!!

  90. John Smith says:

    I don't usually quiet my mind
    But when I do I listen to Krishnamurti.

  91. 4kassis says:

    he sounds like it is a great imposition to have to sit there and answer questions. Why does he even bother?

  92. Shantha Lakshmi says:

    Yes going to primary will not make you a graduate instantly. If not for primary school you can never make into graduation!!!

  93. Amir hosseyni says:

    Yoga is not practiced only for doing miracles and the higher energy. It simply gives a better sensation in life

  94. Raviprakashsingh Markandeysingh says:

    In the name of Yog , (yoga) we only do Aasan (aasna)…..

  95. Bene says:

    There seems to be some answers in this guy. Unfortunately he is not giving it.

  96. Ray Indra says:

    Restoration of awareness of total reality in which we are connected with the whole ?

  97. NowisEvollovetion says:

    The only way to eventually awaken deeper energies is through the action of taking ever more responsibility for your own life. For your own happiness. Something that is mainly achieved by utterly refusing to in any way compromise with the unhappiness in others.

  98. Cynthea Denise says:

    So wonderful J.Krishnamurti, how many years young was he in this lecture?

  99. likith Singh says:

    The first statement was already wrong. yoga or yogic exercises was not made in 17th century. The rest of the argument is necessary.

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