Math is the hidden secret to understanding the world | Roger Antonsen


Hi. I want to talk about understanding,
and the nature of understanding, and what the essence of understanding is, because understanding is something
we aim for, everyone. We want to understand things. My claim is that understanding has to do with the ability to change
your perspective. If you don’t have that,
you don’t have understanding. So that is my claim. And I want to focus on mathematics. Many of us think of mathematics
as addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, fractions, percent, geometry,
algebra — all that stuff. But actually, I want to talk
about the essence of mathematics as well. And my claim is that mathematics
has to do with patterns. Behind me, you see a beautiful pattern, and this pattern actually emerges
just from drawing circles in a very particular way. So my day-to-day definition
of mathematics that I use every day is the following: First of all, it’s about finding patterns. And by “pattern,” I mean a connection,
a structure, some regularity, some rules that govern what we see. Second of all, I think it is about representing
these patterns with a language. We make up language if we don’t have it, and in mathematics, this is essential. It’s also about making assumptions and playing around with these assumptions
and just seeing what happens. We’re going to do that very soon. And finally, it’s about doing cool stuff. Mathematics enables us
to do so many things. So let’s have a look at these patterns. If you want to tie a tie knot, there are patterns. Tie knots have names. And you can also do
the mathematics of tie knots. This is a left-out, right-in,
center-out and tie. This is a left-in, right-out,
left-in, center-out and tie. This is a language we made up
for the patterns of tie knots, and a half-Windsor is all that. This is a mathematics book
about tying shoelaces at the university level, because there are patterns in shoelaces. You can do it in so many different ways. We can analyze it. We can make up languages for it. And representations
are all over mathematics. This is Leibniz’s notation from 1675. He invented a language
for patterns in nature. When we throw something up in the air, it falls down. Why? We’re not sure, but we can represent
this with mathematics in a pattern. This is also a pattern. This is also an invented language. Can you guess for what? It is actually a notation system
for dancing, for tap dancing. That enables him as a choreographer
to do cool stuff, to do new things, because he has represented it. I want you to think about how amazing
representing something actually is. Here it says the word “mathematics.” But actually, they’re just dots, right? So how in the world can these dots
represent the word? Well, they do. They represent the word “mathematics,” and these symbols also represent that word and this we can listen to. It sounds like this. (Beeps) Somehow these sounds represent
the word and the concept. How does this happen? There’s something amazing
going on about representing stuff. So I want to talk about
that magic that happens when we actually represent something. Here you see just lines
with different widths. They stand for numbers
for a particular book. And I can actually recommend
this book, it’s a very nice book. (Laughter) Just trust me. OK, so let’s just do an experiment, just to play around
with some straight lines. This is a straight line. Let’s make another one. So every time we move,
we move one down and one across, and we draw a new straight line, right? We do this over and over and over, and we look for patterns. So this pattern emerges, and it’s a rather nice pattern. It looks like a curve, right? Just from drawing simple, straight lines. Now I can change my perspective
a little bit. I can rotate it. Have a look at the curve. What does it look like? Is it a part of a circle? It’s actually not a part of a circle. So I have to continue my investigation
and look for the true pattern. Perhaps if I copy it and make some art? Well, no. Perhaps I should extend
the lines like this, and look for the pattern there. Let’s make more lines. We do this. And then let’s zoom out
and change our perspective again. Then we can actually see that
what started out as just straight lines is actually a curve called a parabola. This is represented by a simple equation, and it’s a beautiful pattern. So this is the stuff that we do. We find patterns, and we represent them. And I think this is a nice
day-to-day definition. But today I want to go
a little bit deeper, and think about
what the nature of this is. What makes it possible? There’s one thing
that’s a little bit deeper, and that has to do with the ability
to change your perspective. And I claim that when
you change your perspective, and if you take another point of view, you learn something new
about what you are watching or looking at or hearing. And I think this is a really important
thing that we do all the time. So let’s just look at
this simple equation, x + x=2 • x. This is a very nice pattern,
and it’s true, because 5 + 5=2 • 5, etc. We’ve seen this over and over,
and we represent it like this. But think about it: this is an equation. It says that something
is equal to something else, and that’s two different perspectives. One perspective is, it’s a sum. It’s something you plus together. On the other hand, it’s a multiplication, and those are two different perspectives. And I would go as far as to say
that every equation is like this, every mathematical equation
where you use that equality sign is actually a metaphor. It’s an analogy between two things. You’re just viewing something
and taking two different points of view, and you’re expressing that in a language. Have a look at this equation. This is one of the most
beautiful equations. It simply says that, well, two things, they’re both -1. This thing on the left-hand side is -1,
and the other one is. And that, I think, is one
of the essential parts of mathematics — you take
different points of view. So let’s just play around. Let’s take a number. We know four-thirds.
We know what four-thirds is. It’s 1.333, but we have to have
those three dots, otherwise it’s not exactly four-thirds. But this is only in base 10. You know, the number system,
we use 10 digits. If we change that around
and only use two digits, that’s called the binary system. It’s written like this. So we’re now talking about the number. The number is four-thirds. We can write it like this, and we can change the base,
change the number of digits, and we can write it differently. So these are all representations
of the same number. We can even write it simply,
like 1.3 or 1.6. It all depends on
how many digits you have. Or perhaps we just simplify
and write it like this. I like this one, because this says
four divided by three. And this number expresses
a relation between two numbers. You have four on the one hand
and three on the other. And you can visualize this in many ways. What I’m doing now is viewing that number
from different perspectives. I’m playing around. I’m playing around with
how we view something, and I’m doing it very deliberately. We can take a grid. If it’s four across and three up,
this line equals five, always. It has to be like this.
This is a beautiful pattern. Four and three and five. And this rectangle, which is 4 x 3, you’ve seen a lot of times. This is your average computer screen. 800 x 600 or 1,600 x 1,200 is a television or a computer screen. So these are all nice representations, but I want to go a little bit further
and just play more with this number. Here you see two circles.
I’m going to rotate them like this. Observe the upper-left one. It goes a little bit faster, right? You can see this. It actually goes exactly
four-thirds as fast. That means that when it goes
around four times, the other one goes around three times. Now let’s make two lines, and draw
this dot where the lines meet. We get this dot dancing around. (Laughter) And this dot comes from that number. Right? Now we should trace it. Let’s trace it and see what happens. This is what mathematics is all about. It’s about seeing what happens. And this emerges from four-thirds. I like to say that this
is the image of four-thirds. It’s much nicer — (Cheers) Thank you! (Applause) This is not new. This has been known
for a long time, but — (Laughter) But this is four-thirds. Let’s do another experiment. Let’s now take a sound, this sound: (Beep) This is a perfect A, 440Hz. Let’s multiply it by two. We get this sound. (Beep) When we play them together,
it sounds like this. This is an octave, right? We can do this game. We can play
a sound, play the same A. We can multiply it by three-halves. (Beep) This is what we call a perfect fifth. (Beep) They sound really nice together. Let’s multiply this sound
by four-thirds. (Beep) What happens? You get this sound. (Beep) This is the perfect fourth. If the first one is an A, this is a D. They sound like this together. (Beeps) This is the sound of four-thirds. What I’m doing now,
I’m changing my perspective. I’m just viewing a number
from another perspective. I can even do this with rhythms, right? I can take a rhythm and play
three beats at one time (Drumbeats) in a period of time, and I can play another sound
four times in that same space. (Clanking sounds) Sounds kind of boring,
but listen to them together. (Drumbeats and clanking sounds) (Laughter) Hey! So. (Laughter) I can even make a little hi-hat. (Drumbeats and cymbals) Can you hear this? So, this is the sound of four-thirds. Again, this is as a rhythm. (Drumbeats and cowbell) And I can keep doing this
and play games with this number. Four-thirds is a really great number.
I love four-thirds! (Laughter) Truly — it’s an undervalued number. So if you take a sphere and look
at the volume of the sphere, it’s actually four-thirds
of some particular cylinder. So four-thirds is in the sphere.
It’s the volume of the sphere. OK, so why am I doing all this? Well, I want to talk about what it means
to understand something and what we mean
by understanding something. That’s my aim here. And my claim is that
you understand something if you have the ability to view it
from different perspectives. Let’s look at this letter.
It’s a beautiful R, right? How do you know that? Well, as a matter of fact,
you’ve seen a bunch of R’s, and you’ve generalized and abstracted all of these
and found a pattern. So you know that this is an R. So what I’m aiming for here
is saying something about how understanding
and changing your perspective are linked. And I’m a teacher and a lecturer, and I can actually use this
to teach something, because when I give someone else
another story, a metaphor, an analogy, if I tell a story
from a different point of view, I enable understanding. I make understanding possible, because you have to generalize
over everything you see and hear, and if I give you another perspective,
that will become easier for you. Let’s do a simple example again. This is four and three.
This is four triangles. So this is also four-thirds, in a way. Let’s just join them together. Now we’re going to play a game;
we’re going to fold it up into a three-dimensional structure. I love this. This is a square pyramid. And let’s just take two of them
and put them together. So this is what is called an octahedron. It’s one of the five platonic solids. Now we can quite literally
change our perspective, because we can rotate it
around all of the axes and view it from different perspectives. And I can change the axis, and then I can view it
from another point of view, but it’s the same thing,
but it looks a little different. I can do it even one more time. Every time I do this,
something else appears, so I’m actually learning
more about the object when I change my perspective. I can use this as a tool
for creating understanding. I can take two of these
and put them together like this and see what happens. And it looks a little bit
like the octahedron. Have a look at it if I spin
it around like this. What happens? Well, if you take two of these,
join them together and spin it around, there’s your octahedron again, a beautiful structure. If you lay it out flat on the floor, this is the octahedron. This is the graph structure
of an octahedron. And I can continue doing this. You can draw three great circles
around the octahedron, and you rotate around, so actually three great circles
is related to the octahedron. And if I take a bicycle pump
and just pump it up, you can see that this is also
a little bit like the octahedron. Do you see what I’m doing here? I am changing the perspective every time. So let’s now take a step back — and that’s actually
a metaphor, stepping back — and have a look at what we’re doing. I’m playing around with metaphors. I’m playing around
with perspectives and analogies. I’m telling one story in different ways. I’m telling stories. I’m making a narrative;
I’m making several narratives. And I think all of these things
make understanding possible. I think this actually is the essence
of understanding something. I truly believe this. So this thing about changing
your perspective — it’s absolutely fundamental for humans. Let’s play around with the Earth. Let’s zoom into the ocean,
have a look at the ocean. We can do this with anything. We can take the ocean
and view it up close. We can look at the waves. We can go to the beach. We can view the ocean
from another perspective. Every time we do this, we learn
a little bit more about the ocean. If we go to the shore,
we can kind of smell it, right? We can hear the sound of the waves. We can feel salt on our tongues. So all of these
are different perspectives. And this is the best one. We can go into the water. We can see the water from the inside. And you know what? This is absolutely essential
in mathematics and computer science. If you’re able to view
a structure from the inside, then you really learn something about it. That’s somehow the essence of something. So when we do this,
and we’ve taken this journey into the ocean, we use our imagination. And I think this is one level deeper, and it’s actually a requirement
for changing your perspective. We can do a little game. You can imagine that you’re sitting there. You can imagine that you’re up here,
and that you’re sitting here. You can view yourselves from the outside. That’s really a strange thing. You’re changing your perspective. You’re using your imagination, and you’re viewing yourself
from the outside. That requires imagination. Mathematics and computer science
are the most imaginative art forms ever. And this thing about changing perspectives should sound a little bit familiar to you, because we do it every day. And then it’s called empathy. When I view the world
from your perspective, I have empathy with you. If I really, truly understand what the world looks
like from your perspective, I am empathetic. That requires imagination. And that is how we obtain understanding. And this is all over mathematics
and this is all over computer science, and there’s a really deep connection
between empathy and these sciences. So my conclusion is the following: understanding something really deeply has to do with the ability
to change your perspective. So my advice to you is:
try to change your perspective. You can study mathematics. It’s a wonderful way to train your brain. Changing your perspective
makes your mind more flexible. It makes you open to new things, and it makes you
able to understand things. And to use yet another metaphor: have a mind like water. That’s nice. Thank you. (Applause)

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100 thoughts on “Math is the hidden secret to understanding the world | Roger Antonsen”

  1. D. A. says:

    Amazing how the 4/3 draw look so similar to some viking art like the node's . This is an Interesting connection

  2. Yna Ramos says:


  3. Yatukih001 says:

    Exact.y. It´s math…NOT A CNN REPORT!

  4. heptadecagon says:

    That mathematics trains our ability to empathize by pushing us to see things from different perspectives is exactly right. That's what it did to me. I never knew it until Antonsen said it. It's like my life makes more sense now. It's like he solved the puzzle of my life. Wow. Thanks.

  5. Alex Toast says:

    Who knew chris pontius was also a math genius

  6. OldSchoolBoBo says:

    And suddenly, the quote from Bruce Lee: "Be like Water", makes huge sense.

  7. Dipankar Bhattacharya says:

    Never thought the miracles behind math…Mathematics could be the next language of the universe…

  8. Kerry Sammy says:

    OMG. This guy goes far beyond beyond.

  9. Red Laser says:

    Wish you were my teacher. great video.

  10. toomanydrugs inmysys says:

    idiotic to the highest degree, might as well teach creationism to little 2 year old and brainwash them early on. get a life, whoever this guy is has a non-job

  11. kamian joh says:

    Empathy = changed perspective 🤔

  12. Asrat Mengesha says:

    No, first understand the world first then use maths for the rest.
    Evidence: You cannot calculate the height of the sun if you don't observe related possible parametric values.

  13. Cerberus says:

    "Be Water my friend, water can Flow or it can Crash!" ~ Bruce Lee

  14. PoSeiDoN NaGa says:

    I asked my mom why I needed to memorize my time table in primary school and she told me I would need it when I grow up and drive a car, build anything, and I understand now.


    The mistake we all make as humans is trying to change our own and other’s perspectives while breaking the laws of reason and logic. We see a pattern that appears beautiful to us or that fits our narrative and limited personal experience, but it unfortunately doesn’t actually fit the pattern of reality.

  16. Paul Frischknecht says:

    bruce lee said: be water my friend

  17. Peter Morris says:

    Amazing lecture and amazing person. He has reached a level of humanity that we should all strive for. Bravo!

  18. DR Homestead says:

    Well said …I'll make sure that I change my perspective

  19. Richard Alsenz says:

    Empathy is similar to an infinite summation. Just as one can not arrive at the limit of an infinite summation, one can not truly reach empathy.  However, by putting on the other's shoes one begins to see the other's perspective. One must do this over and over to approach Fairness.  ..Greed is the opposite of Fairness and Greed accounts for the waste in a society. One of the most significant art works which logically explains this is Magritte's artistic master piece "This is not an  Apple"

  20. WalkOn Bye says:

    Don't always act on empathy. Empathy with a predator can get you killed.
    Temper empathy with a healthy dose of self preservation.

  21. WalkOn Bye says:

    Sadly migrants from the third world are trying to squeeze this Man out of his country.

  22. Booon Noob says:

    Music is math

  23. Matt Whitby says:

    Just me that scanned the barcode to see the book was:
    Book of Numbers: A Novel by Joshua Cohen ?

  24. Michael Pisciarino says:

    Understanding And Changing Perspective

    Beautiful Patterns, Structure, Regularity, Langauge

    1:52 Tie Knots
    Inventing A Language For Patterns In Nature

    3:08 Symbolism, Sound, Representing Something Else

    4:05 Drawing Lines

    5:20 Changing Perspective
    Addition, Mulitplication,

    8:00 4/3
    11:07 Understand if you can view from multiple perspectives

  25. Arife Goma says:

    to understanding? is that grammarly correct?

  26. Aenean Ferox says:

    I love maths. Thanks

    Btw I would also like to know how you've maintained such a wonderful mane. I am flabbergasted 💕

  27. Carlo Capistrano says:

    Thank you.

  28. UppedSolution77 says:

    Did anyone notice at 2:20 the shoelace book was written by Burkard Polster! That's the Mathologer! Just search Mathologer on YouTube if you unfamiliar with the channel he uploads some beautiful mathematically related videos.

  29. polidiot patriot says:

    Ahhhh TedX, the pedo friendly channel.

  30. Raoni Barros says:

    Uma das palestras mais inspiradoras do TED! Parabéns Roger Antonsen, excelente aula!

  31. Malcolm Eric says:

    I tried looking for the book referred to, IBSN 778215022741, but different searches all return an error! It seems it is a number short or two too long . Would anyone care to help, please?

  32. Mr. T says:


  33. Bhangra Fan says:

    Maths is an exact language using symbols which has been invented by the human mind to communicate relationships precisely. It is used to construct models of the world we experience. It is important not to confuse the model with the real thing it represents. The model is always simpler, and emphasises certain features of immediate interest while ignoring others. Maths does not exist out there, it exists in our minds, like verbal languages.

  34. Bhangra Fan says:

    Explanation in a mathematical sense means showing how a new model relates to other older models we already know. This can be thought of as changing our perspective in a broad sense.

  35. samuel mathibu says:


  36. JoAnn Thomases says:

    So what is the word truth, earth, in bible? Garden ? Eden ? I totally get that..the flower of life, Jesus knew. The father, the whole dna/blood, Jacobs ladder. Grandfathered in..nice show !! Totally enjoyed it.

  37. Conroy Penner says:

    The correct answer is: The Authorized King James Bible is the key to understanding everything.

  38. UK D says:

    Wonderful ! Yes we have to look at life from INSIDE out !

  39. Bob Smithies says:

    Great talk, except for the liberal political bs at the end.
    Try looking at the world through the perspective of someone who BELIEVES in an ideology written by a 7th century warlord who married a 6 year old girl.

  40. Majesty James says:

    I love u

  41. Dr. Complex says:

    Ok, we must make morse code based on this video.

  42. crimson knight says:

    “You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother.”
    ― Albert Einstein

  43. joseph vasta says:

    the new math makes a person use the brain but ALSO CONFUSE == the old adage remains true — if it is NOT BROKEN ,DO NOT FIX IT !!! this another way to render calculators obsolete

  44. Vantage-Collabo says:

    amazing perspective

  45. Tony T says:

    Wish we had a better school system that would interest me the way you did.

  46. Om Upadhyay says:

    17 minutes doesn't do justice to his explanation

  47. Eao Ryan says:

    Jes. Another fn tweed.

  48. Corey Hanson says:

    Math is a tool to explain what is, not what is. Or a way to explain what is, not what is,

  49. Sphephelo Kweyama says:

    I've been teaching maths for over 5yrs now but never had such perspective. I'm glad I know now how to make maths more enjoyable

  50. Grady Whitman says:

    Math requires one to think critically, without bias, which can be applied to any field.

  51. 30 seconds of silence says:

    Mathmatically… Jesus Christ is the only Way to Heaven. He is the only way %100 can be sins can be washed clean.

  52. 🎤G P🎵 MUSIC WORLD🎤 says:

    👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌🌹🥁please rtrn

  53. VillaenAS says:

    Yes this guy knws abt maths bt don't knw the spelling of it, case is same as per prev. cmnts

  54. Rajan V K says:

    best explained wow.

  55. Taisir Eldos says:

    I like it, but since its a language and have to be precise; the 4/3 example there was a mistake of young comma which is a separator instead of point which is a radix marker. So, 4/3 is 1.3333 – – – rather than 1,333 and so on

  56. Qozee Qozee says:

    Can someone please ask Mr Antonsen to show us the "base 3, 6 & 9" representation of 4/3, and to let us know if they're used in any science(s). Takk for belysningen, Sir

  57. Bada Bro says:

    Thats why ted grows
    Love u ted

  58. Marianna G says:

    Super. I always say my students – Math is music

  59. Gari Avanesyan says:

    If only colleges did not demand a particular form of mathematics, moreover, if the mathematicians advising colleges, and anyone determining college entrance exams, opened mathematics up to everyone beyond the boring textbook structure of equation, theorem, maybe a proof, examples and dozens of problems, to the beautiful patterns, to play with these, and attempt one’s own curious proofs, the we may have creative problem solving individuals!

  60. SuperJV4x says:

    leftists first have to discover that 1 + 1 != 3

  61. aoxilus says:

    Logic is the hidden secret to understanding the Universe

  62. the wandering tofu says:

    Simply speaking, mathematics is about patterns, finding it and stuffs

  63. AlAmer- الأمير says:

    لازم مدرسين عدنا يتعلمون منه

  64. poorna chandar says:

    change the respective 👍👌

  65. The B1 66-ER says:

    Change your perspectives and be like water! Water is so much more than just a liquid!

  66. Kevin Kenny says:

    Loved it!

  67. Richard Sheehan says:

    Very good!

  68. Rascallion Vagabond says:

    90% of speech:

  69. Aziz Ahmadi says:

    Mathematics is like religion it teaches you other people's bullshit in patterned way, of course in their prospective and not yours this way most people do not understand mathematics and does not make sense to them.

  70. FichDichInDemArsch says:

    Random disjointed mutterings.

  71. skilz8098 says:

    Many people only go 3/4 the way falling short of 4/3. They only have 3/4 of their own perspective where they need an additional 1/4 to complete their own plus 1/3 more to consider another's. So they are 7/12 short from his perspective. But if you put it all together you'll end up with 48/12 which in turn equals 4. Now repeat this 3 times and you will see the pattern…

  72. Rod Berg says:

    Math is a language with no basis in reality. It's laughable. Many actual mathematicians have been quoted saying exactly that. It's all theoretical BS. The theory of relativity is philosophy.

  73. Optimus says:

    Bravo! Inspired!

  74. StJohnnn DG says:

    nikoli tesla

  75. Jose Ayala says:

    Without empathy there is no depth.

  76. Nosehimily says:


  77. louiegarithm x2 says:

    The world is dominated by rules/patterns. And Mathematics is the rule. Thus, the world is dominated by Mathematics.

  78. oscar da silva says:

    This is the best Ted Talk I have ever heard

  79. Michael Kumm says:

    The book referenced in the barcode at 3:54 is "Book of Numbers: A Novel" by Joshua Cohen

  80. Vlad D says:

    This was so boring

  81. Zelmira Cholevova says:

    👍👍👍amazing genius, to see all those other perspectives of simple occurrences. Thank you. Makes you humble.

  82. Nana Acheampong Ernest says:

    Understanding the word "Understand" mathematically. You've change my perspective to emphatically understand the nature of understanding in the world

  83. Noraida Sabre says:


  84. Saba Kauser says:

    Genius thinking!

  85. Saber Ronaldo says:

    Amazing definition… thank you sir

  86. SenseOfWonder2 says:

    Thank you so much.

    I watched this after being told math is something I just need to memorize, when I asked why?

    I see math from a different perspective then the person who said this.

    I see math as something applied to the world.

    I don't have to let go of that in order to learn how "math finds the patterns and represents them".

    This talk gives me hope.

    I will understand math not just memorize it 🙂

  87. Cam is from outer space says:

    This was excellent!!! I literally don't think that I've seen a better way to help one understand math at its most basic level. I would also like to point out that I have yet to see a better way to spark someone's interest in mathematics than the way this gentleman did. Lastly I will say that this couldn't have been presented in a better manner!!

  88. iorek byrnison says:

    Math and Science expressed through Archons and Reptilians serve the interest of the few and enslave humanity (as religion does).

    The ai god consciousness relies on these hive mind networks to express this control and false distribution of the energy of wealth and number prowess to synthetic servants within the hive.

    Centrao banks black magic in action

  89. Niviya says:

    Loved it.

  90. spoonerbooner says:

    where does this guy teach, can I go do his course?

  91. Thilina Rajinda says:

    Addictive to Mathematics can easily surpass the Time… Try it when you are getting bored.!

  92. Bhuban Kheti says:

    Nice, ❤❤

  93. Johanna P says:

    I wish his talk was longer

  94. No No1 says:

    ALL of you missed something rather special. This man knows so much more than you realise and showed you so much more than you saw. So for all the none believers of truth I give you.. " Revelations of the pyramid". Watch the vid, then come back to this. No need to thank me. Thank the poor person on the street for living there truth and help them.

  95. kaviyasri s says:

    You expressed my mind which was confused in communicating what was running…. Superb word which I ever heard

  96. Nikole Ribeiro says:

    i dont understand his analogy

  97. Tony Thomas says:

    Imagination is not how you obtain understanding(16:10), true understanding comes from exclusively from experience. This is the difference between Empathy and Sympathy(Compassion).

  98. shubanshu tivari says:

    if empathy can be totally defined by science then i think we are not far from getting super intelligent artificial intelligence

  99. The good Halogen says:

    So what's the image of 666

  100. Avinash Sarate says:

    Thnx a lot. Great.

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